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If you plan on attending Origins this July, check out Kevin Zucker's seminar in the "War College" on the campaign of 1814. From: Andy Ashton
I have enjoyed playing Napoleon at Bay for many years, as also the other games in the series. I am currently researching the French OB for 1814 and although I can make good estimates on most of the formations in the campaign I have drawn a blank on the composition of the following units:
Souham 3rd National Guard Division Janssens Division Bill Gray replies: For the Divisions Souharn and Janssens, little more is known than what Kevin had in the Study Folder that was part of the Napoleon at Bay 1st ed. Both formations were ad hoc and very temporary. Division Souham This was NOT a National Guard Division. Rather, the unit consisted of 7 battalions of Ligne, Marine Artillerie and Garde National Sedentaire troops, as well as 160 cavalry and 8 guns, for a total of 1600 men' On 20 Mar it was assigned with Allix to guard the passages across the Seine and Yonne. Division Janssens Under Ney as of 17 March, consisted of 2900 men drawn from the garrisons of French fortresses in and near the Ardennes. Source: Janson, Der Feldzug 1814 in Frankreich, part of the series Geschichte der Befreiungskrieg, 1813-1815. 1st Paris Reserve Division General de Division Arrighi, Duc de Padua officers/enlisted men present (12 March 1814)
3d bn/65th Ligne 9/89 34th bn/66th Ligne 12/222 32d bn/70th Ligne 16/221 32d, 4th, 6th bns/85th Ligne 30/168 33d & 4th bns/43d Ligne 32/348 32d & 4th bns/50th Ligne 30/319 34th bn/7th Ligne 21/165 33d bn/88th Ligne 20/262 3Attached Cavalry Brigade (elements of I Cavalry Corps)
32d Provisional Regt 20/120 33d Provisional Regt 56/594 34th Provisional Regt 52/639 Source: French Archives (Chateau de Vincennes) Cartons C21555 - 556 3From: "David Krepow"
A friend was searching the Web for my
last name. He did not find my site, but he did
find a reference to my last name in a writeup
that you had done for a game called Six Days
to Glory ("Don't allow Karpow and Krepow to
remain near the French Line of
Communication.") Did you design or help
design this game or was this paper just a
review? If you were a designer, could you tell
what inspired you to use this name and is
there some historical significance to it? The
reason I'm asking such silly questions is that
my family and I assumed that our name was
very rare and that it was created on Ellis
Island as some kind of a cruel joke. Several
years ago my sister and I tried to start a
geneological search but gave up after
reaching some dead ends because of this
assumption.
If you just made the name up, well, you
were not the first and I thank you for your
time. But, If there is some information you can
give me, I'd appreciate it. Again, thank you for
your time.
Mr. Zucker replies:
Krepow was an error in our game too! It
was supposed to be Kretow, but the graphic
artist who typed the names picked up the
ending from the previous name in the list, an
easy mistake since it was already so similar.
However, this does not mean that the
Krepow/Kretow mentioned in the game is
unrelated to you. In fact, it is likely that the
same error was committed on both occasions,
by the typesetter on our game and by the
registrar at Ellis Island.
Karpow and Kretow (often spelled
Karpov and Kretov) are the commanders of
two cossack brigades in the game. Our games
are researched, but historical information
about the cossacks is never easy to obtain
because these irregular forces kept few
records. To make our historicity a bit more
tenuous, we know that Kretow was in France
as a part of Karpow's "division" in early
January, but we are not sure if he commanded
the brigade which rode alongside Karpov's
during the "Six Days Campaign" of February
9th14th. Since he was a brigade
commander under Karpow, we assume he
continued in his place in the absence of
further evidence. His brigade was from
"Courland," modern Lithuania. The whole
division, which comprised brigades under
Karpow in person and Kretow, comprised 8
regiments, each of two squadrons, and the
names of these were: Karpow,
Sementschenko, Lukowkin, Kutainikow IV,
Grekow, the volunteers of St. Petersburg (not
real cossacks one supposes), the 4th
Regiment of the Ukraine and the 2nd Rgt. of
Kalmucks (also not cossacks). General Kretow
must have commanded four of these
regiments, and Karpov (directly) the other
four. I can tell you that the two Cossack
Brigades of Karpow and Kretow were attached
to General Wassilchicow's Cavalry Corps,
which in turn was attached to the Russian
Corps of Osten-Sacken in Marshal Blilcher's
Army of Silesia. The two brigades fought a
scuffle with French cavalry at Villenauxe, 14
miles south of Sezanne, on the 8th of
February, 1814. At that point we lose track of
them; cossacks were scouts and tended to
scout far afield when battle was near. "A good
scout makes a bad soldier," runs a saying of
the American Indians.
From: R Kirchner I recently purchased Six Days of Glory in
order to convert it into a miniatures campaign.
It lends itself well to this. I am having trouble
with your Order of Battle concerning the
Prussian cavalry formation of General Roeder.
I have done a lot of research on this campaign
and I don't see this formation anywhere. I
believe Kleist's Korps contained the Prussian
heavy cavalry. Can you help me with your OB
sources? Everything else seems to
correspond to my sources.
Mr. Zucker replies:
I am glad the game OB mostly
corresponds with your research. Most
accounts of the campaign have incorrect OBs.
You have to piece this one together, so you
must have done a lot of work already.
My sources say that Roeder's Cavalry
Division was part of Kleist's Prussian 11
Corps, which was just entering France. Part of
the Corps was still en route (the infantry
brigades of Zieten and Pr. August). One
problem in studying the Prussians is that their
brigades had a titular commander and an
executive officer; sometimes sources list one,
sometimes the other.
A. Pigeard gives a regimental OB for
Roeder's cavalry in January 1814, and shows
three brigades: Wrangel, Hacke, and Mutius,
with 28 squadrons. Roeder had only 8
squadrons (Hacke) and one battery as he
entered the theater of operations; during the 6
Days he had 16 squadrons (I suppose a
second brigade, probably Wrangel, caught
up).
From: R Kirchner I dug up some more OBs from Nafziger.
The OB for Vauchamps, 14 February; lists
Kleists Corps with 3 infantry Brigades (Pirch
1, Ziethen, Pr August) and 2 cavalry brigades:
Hacke-4 sq Silesian Cuirassiers, 4 sq
Silesian Uhlans [Light].
Roeder-4 sq East Prussian Cuirassiers, 4
sq Brandenberg Cuirassier.
The OB dated 24 Feb. lists von Zeithen
commanding all the cavalry in a reserve
formation consisting of
Blucher-8 sq (4 of Neumark Dragoons, 4
of I st Silesian Hussars)
Wrangle-8 sq (4 of Grand Duke
Constantine CUiL, 4 of Brandenberg cuir.)
Haak-8 sq (4 of Silesian cuirassiers, 4
Silesian Uhlans)
Prince Biron-8 sq (4 of 2nd Silesian
Hussars, 4 Silesian National Hussars)
All in all it is confusing, but I see in no
way Roeder commanding any sort of light
cavalry formation during the 6 Days
campaign. It seems to be the heavy cavalry as
I suspected. Perhaps a new game piece is
needed to reflect this. Or am I being too
petty? Keep up the good work.
Mr. Zucker replies:
As I suggested above, the OB for this
period is never presented adequately in any
of the readily available sources. If you want
the "good stuff" you have to go to Janson':
Geschichte der Befreiungskriege, 1813-1815 This
is available at the New York Public Li brary,
where else I don't know. Nafziger is great, but
you have to be careful; Pr. Augus was not at
Vauxchamps, for example.
There were a bunch of battles, losses, an(
reinforcements between 9 February and 22
February. Here is the ftill OB for Roeder's
Cavalry Division presented in A. Pigeard.
Division Roeder
Bde Hacke
Bde Mutius
According to Petre, Blucher had no
cavalry with him until the 12th of February,
when he got 800 horsemen. On the 13th he go
Hacke's 2000 cavalry (pages 68-69) Whether
Roeder or Hacke commanded I am not certain.
It is possible that the 8 squadrons shown
above for Hacke totalled 2000 men. Who the
other 800 men were we don' know (they might
even be the avantgarde the 2000-man
brigade). Of that brigade the Hussars and
Militia are light cavalry.
If we're going to print a new game piece.
think we should really find out who those
troops were. If I recall correctly, we used
inherent military probability (ie, we guessed)
basing that decision, however, on the sound
principle that the above-mentioned Hussars
and Militia light cavalry would travel lighter
and therefore arrive ahead of the heavy
cuirassiers. According to this argument,
Roeder and/or Hacke collected all the light
cavalry into an ad hoc Avant Garde and rode
hell for leather at Blucher's summons
(remember Blucher was face to face with the
enemy and had no cavalry). In that extremity,
they would not keep to the pretty
organization table. Why he had no cavalry;
where they were, on what mission, is
something you could find out in Janson.
NOTE: For more information regarding the
above discussed OB, please refer to the following
link : www.mygale.org/03/grognard/Ordre-Bat/index.html
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