(1) Question on issue #5 on rule 3.8, Tom suggested to include in the skirmishers the French dragoons, Russian Dragoons. I basically agree to that however, the question is not that simple and I think we should make a special rule for them. (2) Same issue also by Tom, purchasing values for Saxon Guard Grenadiers. They are classified as Young Guard i.e. 2 points each. (3) Same issue from Tom, purchasing value of the French carabiniers after 1819. They are classified as Guard Heavy Cavalry i.e. 3.5 points each. (4) Issue 36 (1) Cannoniers Gardes-Cotes see issue #7 for proposed classification and point value. (2) Pirates point value certainly a matter of how looting is at stake may be like light infantry on the attack but nothing better than Levy infantry in defense or Fear of Disaster.(3) Dockyard Battalions same as Line. (4) Local Defense Unit nothing better than Levy. That should answer for the time being some of Tom's questions. I wonder what Tom is preparing for us in his projected battles? It should be interesting. QUESTIONS Now that I have been so nice in answering questions my turn to get in the act and ask the members something. You have seen all the above point ratings etc. To me it brings the point of unit rating. It is only the logical evolution of the point system. So, I think that we should evaluate all the new units before we allow them to participate in the battles. Also some old units should be reevaluated. (1) Austrians Tyrolian Jeagers. I am the guilty party, I have classified them as Elite in Firing classification. They should have been Sharpshooters. See rule 4.9, the purchasing value then jumps to 2 points. Perhaps we should classify only the Tirolian Yeagers as sharpshooters and the other yeagers as Elite at a purchasing value of 1.5 points. (2) We would appreciate Mike to write an article on the performances of the Westphalian Guard Grenadiers and the other Westphalian Guard units. It would be most interesting. As a matter of fact anything on the small German States is of interest. That should keep you busy for awhile. (3) The rating of the Prussian Landwher was also asked by Bill Berei sometime ago. I believe they are just Levy however some units could be classified as Line Recruits with some of the Reserve Infantry battalions. It is an open subject. (4) Bill, how do you propose to classify the Black Brunswickers that you are so meticulously pointing? What is their organization? I think we should fully evaluate them before we put them in the field. That should avoid any problem and give us a chance to learn more about them. (5) Do you agree that the Prussian Guard Grenadiers should be classified as Young Guard? They were formed as far as I know from the Line independent Grenadiers battalions and consequently are about the Young Guard caliber, with perhaps the exception of the #8 garde Regiment zu Fuss. The PRUSSIAN ARMY- David Nash-Almork says the following: "In June 1813, the 8th Foot Guard Regiment was taken out of the line and redesignated 'Erstes garde-regiment zu Fuss'. At the same time the 'Zwites Garde-Regiment zu Fuss' was formed from the 'Normal'Infantry Battalion, the 1/Cobergsches inf. Regt. and the 'Leib-Fusilie;' Battalion. The old regiments numbered 9-12 all moved down one in the sequence to 8-11 and a new 12th Brandenburg Infantry Regiment was formed from reservists. reserve REgiments 1-12 were activated in 1813 and on March 25, 1815, were incorporated into the line as regiments Nos. 13-24. Similarly, the various legions and Freikorps were numbered 25-31. In 1813 some of the Reserve Regiments mobilised four battalions, the fourth usually being absorbed later by the other three. In 1814, the 'Garde-Schutzen-Batallion' was formed and the six independent grenadier battalions were grouped into the new Guard Grenadier Regiments; 'Nr. 1, Czar Alexander' and 'Nr. 2, Kaiser Franz.'" (6) Prussian Cuirassiers-Page 49 same book (the Prussian Army) we find: "In April 1814, a metal curass was authorized for wear by all ranks within Kurassier Regiments. The cuirass was made of Tombak for the Garde du Corps, and the Brandenburg Kurassiers; and of iron for the other two regiments. Despite the authorization, it is doubtful if the cuirass was ever worn by troops on active service before the end of the Napoleonic Wars. They were originally captured from the French remount depot at Versailles. According to some reports the Garde du Corps had blackened their curaisses in 1814." Is the above correct? Please note that it says that the Garde du Corps had blackened their cuirasses in 1814? How that can be if they only had cuirasses at the end of the Napoleonic War? If the above is correct how can we justify armored Prussian Cuirassiers or should we make an exception? (7) Prussian Light Guard Cavalry Regiment. Same book again page 43: "An independent Ulan Squadron was formed in 1809 and in the following year was renamed the Garde-Ulanen-Eskadron. In 1811, two 'Normal' squadrons were formed: the Normal-Dragoner-Eskadron, composed of men from dragoon and Kurassier regiments; and the Normal-Husaren-Eskadron drawn from the ranks of the Hussar regiments. In February 1813 to these three formations was added a fourth, the Gard-Kosaken and together they became known as the Leichtes Garde-Kavallerie-Regiment. In March 1815, these squadrons were expanded to form the Garde Ulan, Dragoon and Hussar Regiments, the Cossacks being attached to the Garde Ulanen." According to the above the Guard Kosaken were only one squadron strong before 1815. The Guard Hussaren were also one squadron strong. The same was true for the Guard Uhlanen and with the Normal-Dragoner-Descardon formed the Prussian Leichtes Garde-Kavallerie Regiment. the Guard Kosaken are now 2 squadron strong, so are the Guard Uhlanen. Where is the justification fort the above? My reference may be wrong also. CONCLUSION: all the above show that it is imperative to evaluate in this Newsletter any new unit that we are planning to use in the game if we want to be realistic about our units. The exception to the rule are units like the famous K.P.L. which is now legendary and part of the club's traditions. Back to Empire, Eagles, & Lions Table of Contents Vol. 1 No. 8 Back to EEL List of Issues Back to MagWeb Master Magazine List © Copyright 1999 by Jean Lochet This article appears in MagWeb (Magazine Web) on the Internet World Wide Web. Other military history articles and gaming articles are available at http://www.magweb.com